(Update II ) For an updated post on the coverage and photos of the BYU Cheney Protest, see here. (Update I) The Deseret News reports on the Church’s announcement here. The Salt Lake Tribune was on the defensive here. The Church has issued a formal statement on the Dick Cheney invitation to speak at BYU’s commencement in April. The Church’s official statement is on its website here. The subject of Mr. Cheney’s invitation has been discussed at length in the Bloggernacle. I started this discussion over at Bloggernacle Times, just after the story first broke in the Salt Lake Tribune. You can find links to the rest of the Bloggernacle discussions at this prior post here.
The Church’s official statement takes issue with a particularly harsh editorial in the Salt Lake Tribune. The Church statement notes that despite differing political views of BYU students or Church members, the invitation should be seen as one extended to a high ranking elected official and nothing more:
An invitation by Brigham Young University to the vice president of the United States to be the commencement speaker next month has triggered discussion and some controversy over the issue of political neutrality.
Whatever the personal views of individual students or other members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the invitation is seen by the university’s board of trustees as one extended to someone holding the high office of vice president of the United States rather than to a partisan political figure.
The Church then takes the Salt Lake Tribune to task for attacking the Church’s political neutrality:
The Salt Lake Tribune ran two articles in its edition this morning (29 March) related to the pending visit of the vice president.
One, a prominently displayed personal opinion piece by a political reporter, criticizes the Church, in intemperate and disrespectful language, for inviting Vice President Dick Cheney to be the commencement speaker.
The reporter’s central point seems to be that inviting the vice president — presumably this particular vice president — is inconsistent with the Church’s often-stated political neutrality.
The other article — in the same newspaper — is an editorial that urges that the vice president be allowed to speak because “this is democracy at work” and that an audience of college graduates is capable of assessing what he says. The newspaper further says that the decision was for the BYU board of trustees to make, “just as it is the right of anyone who disagrees with the choice to say so.”
The editorial to which the Church objected was written by Tribune columnist Rebecca Walsh. I read the article, and would have to agree that she took some cheap political shots at the Church and the First Presidency. And, more interesting is that the Tribune’s editorial board apparently does not see this invitation as such a sinister move by Church authorities. Rather, they concluded that it was the Church’s right to make this decision and that it demonstrates “democracy at work.” The headline claimed the invitation would foster healthy debate, and indeed it has. While I disagree with the Church’s decision to invite Mr Cheney I do agree the Church certainly had the right to do so. Furthermore, I do not believe the Church has crossed the political neutrality line, even by inviting such a divisive figure as Dick Cheney.
The Church then reviews its political neutrality policy, which in shortened form is essentially:
1. Prohibits Church leaders from endorsing political candidates on behalf of the Church;
2. Bans the use of its chapels for partisan political purposes;
3. Does not tell its members or LDS elected officials how to vote.
The Church also noted some of the encouragement it offers members regarding political participation:
1. Encourages members to be responsible citizens;
2. Encourages members to be politically active, but respectful of other differing political viewpoints.
The Church statement defended Cheney’s invitation and disclosed that it has already invited Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, next fall, as well as possibly Chief Justice John Roberts of the United States Supreme Court to visit and speak on campus:
The invitation to the vice president of the United States is not a violation of that policy, any more than inviting the majority leader of the Senate would be. In fact, Senator Harry Reid — a Democrat from the opposite political pole to the vice president — has already accepted such an invitation for this fall. That invitation has been in process for many months — long before the announcement of the vice president’s visit.
Is it appropriate for a university — even one that espouses a policy of political neutrality — to have as featured speakers the holders of some of the highest offices in the land? Of course it is. And whoever the visitor — the vice president, the majority leader of the Senate or the chief justice of the Supreme Court (another scheduled fall speaker) — the university and the student body will listen, evaluate and react to them as intelligent citizens capable of making up their own minds about their messages.
The Church has given great leeway to those members and even non members who might disagree with its decision. Surprisingly, at least to me, the Church as authorized an on campus protest for those who want to share their disagreement with this decision and Mr. Cheney’s political positions. The Salt Lake Tribune is reporting that BYU has authorized such a protest:
Brigham Young University officials will allow students to hold an on-campus protest opposing Vice President Dick Cheney’s visit to campus to deliver the commencement speech. It will be held April 4 on Brigham Square, BYU spokeswoman Carri Jenkins said, adding LDS Church leaders’ invitation to Cheney still stands, and the speech will take place.
“We recognize on any given day and any given subject that there are many diverse views, and there are diverse views on this situation as well,” Jenkins said. “We recognize that members of our campus community are entitled to their opinions.”
This first protest will be next week; however, students are pushing for a second protest, again on campus, for the day Mr. Cheney speaks:
The College Democrats would like to have another protest the day of Cheney’s visit, but have not decided on a location and have yet to receive school permission. The student club would like to protest next to the Marriott Center, where Cheney will speak, but school leaders worry about security.
“The administration has been very accommodating about both protests,” Bailey said. “For the 26th, they said they won’t stick us in the pool or some back closet. I’m sure we can come up with a place we both agree with.”
The Deseret News is reporting a similar story about BYU allowing student protests on campus:
PROVO — An on-campus protest opposing the invitation of Vice President Dick Cheney to speak at the April commencement ceremony has been approved by Brigham Young University officials.
A group of students met Wednesday night to organize the protest, scheduled for next Wednesday, as well as other possible demonstrations in the Provo area. The location and time for the protest at BYU have not yet been decided, said BYU spokeswoman Carri Jenkins. “I don’t have all the details,” she said. “I do know it’s through the College Democrats (club).” Jenkins said, however, the university will not reconsider its decision to invite the vice president. “It has been confirmed,” she said.
BYU officials rarely allow protests on university property, and participating students said they were surprised to receive permission. “To be completely honest, I wasn’t as surprised when I found that Cheney was speaking as I was when (university officials) said they would allow a protest,” said Eric Bybee, a senior who has been heavily involved in organizing what he calls the “anti-Cheney” movement.
The fact that BYU is allowing an on campus protest, I think speaks volumes about the Church’s political neutrality here. They certainly didn’t have to allow such a protest. I know when I was a student back in the 70’s and 80’s, such a protest would have been unheard of. In fact, even last week, BYU did not allow a political protest on campus by Soulforce.
While I strongly disagree with the timing of this invitation, and the negative PR impacts it will have on the Church both at home and abroad, I am quite pleased to see the Church allow dissent among members with differing views. It will be an interesting few weeks at BYU.
March 29, 2007 at 7:20 pm
Very interesting developments. I strongly hope that a protest is allowed (and if not, still organized close to campus) on commencement day. That’s one that I will attend and support, whereas a protest two weeks before the event does little to entice me to go and lend a voice.
It will be an interesting few weeks at BYU.
Makes me wish I didn’t graduate last year… I would love to be in the middle of this fiasco!
March 29, 2007 at 7:27 pm
[...] I was mystified why the Church would take issue with Van Orden’s relatively mild letter. Messenger and Advocate has more coverage and pointed me to the Walsh column. [...]
March 29, 2007 at 8:26 pm
wait, did BYU invite Cheney (as the church’s official statement seems to indicate) or did the White House initiate?
March 29, 2007 at 8:30 pm
Dan,
As has been reported and confirmed by the spokesperson for BYU, the White House extended the offer, and then upon approval of the board, BYU extended a formaal invitation.
So, to answer your question, yes.
March 29, 2007 at 8:55 pm
I honestly don’t know what all the uproar is all about. It’s a chance for students to hear a sitting vice president speak, in person, for free. Most of us who work for a living would have to pay (dearly) for such a privilege.
As staunch a Republican as I am, I’d have gone to see Bill Clinton or Al Gore speak at any college I attended — in a heartbeat. And I’d hope that any college that I attended would accept an offer to speak from a sitting executive. Most people never get to hear or see them in person.
Students can protest if they want, but I tend to think that it’s a waist of time. They’d do better to actually attend and take advantage of the opportunity to see him free of the filtering lens of the media. (Again, I’d say this whether he were a Democrat or a Republican.)
March 29, 2007 at 9:32 pm
I actually think the PR is very positive at this point, particularly because of this statement. If anyone can read that and think this is somehow an endorsement of Cheney, they really are looking for something to pick on. BYU allows protest, the Church reiterates that it’s not telling people what to think about this or what he might say, it acknowledged this was a controversial move and yet just says, “Hey, this is why we did it. You can think whatever you want.” I think in some ways this is better than doing nothing because it makes the Church’s neutrality that much more clear. I’m very impressed how everything was handled pretty much head-on.
March 29, 2007 at 9:40 pm
Connor: I think realistically the protest on the day Cheney comes will have to be held off campus. Opening campus to a protest on commencement day is just not something I think the University or the Church is willing to consider. It would allow all kinds of political extremists access to campus with the potential of disrupting the entire commencement proceedings. I’d be very surprised if they allow an on campus demonstration that day. Regardless, it will be interesting to follow. That they allowed the one demonstration on campus was amazing to me.
Dan: Yeah, I think Connor has it right. I think Cheney’s people talked to Hinckely’s people and the rest is history after the Church considered the offer.
DKL: Most of us, well at least me anyway, would not pay anything at any time to hear Dick Cheney speak. I think the difference here is that, working folks have a choice to go hear or not hear Mr. Cheney as they see fit. The students at BYU are essentially forced to attend, or, skip their commencement. I think that’s a pretty poor choice to have to make.
Of course you and I have political differences on this issue. I understand the argument you are making. And, to a degree, I would agree with it; however, when it comes to this administration, which I hold in as low esteem as I did the Nixon administration, I just can’t see supporting it in anyway.
As for the student protests, I think it is a great opportunity. As you know, BYU is a rather restrictive environment. I think the Church allowing BYU students an opportunity to protest reflects a growing maturity in allowing students rights that many other campus venues offer their students. As I mentioned in my post, this type of protest would have been unheard of when I attended BYU. I suspect the same would likely be true of when you attended as well.
I also think that by allowing the protest the Church wins some in the PR war here, by giving the appearance that there are other political views in the Church and on campus. It also allows those frustrated some measure of venting as it were. I’d almost consider going out for the day; but, will likely be too busy to make the trip for the weekend.
I’m sure the press will cover it!
March 29, 2007 at 9:43 pm
m&m: Yes, I agree with your analysis. The Church, by issuing this statement has taken some of the negative PR sting out of this invitation. And, it shows a tolerance for differing political views amongst its student body and worldwide membership. This is very important for the Church to get across. Again, I agree with you on this. I was very pleased to see the Church’s official statement on its website.
March 29, 2007 at 10:00 pm
Guy, did you actually go to commencement? I didn’t think that people actually attended those things.
BTW, I wouldn’t pay to hear Cheney speak either, but that’s just because of the way I handle my personal finances. My point is that neither you nor I have the option of hearing him speak for free.
March 29, 2007 at 10:03 pm
It’s a chance for students to hear a sitting vice president speak, in person, for free.
If his entire persona could be contained within that one role, nobody would care. No one in this life is pure, 100 percent evil. Dick Cheney is a father, and no doubt loves his family.
And it’s entirely possible that Ted Bundy, or Al Capone, or John Wilkes Booth, or Napoleon Bonaparte, at some point in life, (I’m trying real hard to steer clear of Godwin’s law here) could have given a very engaging public talk on a topic of their choice, and people might have come away from it having been enlightened or uplifted or entertained or educated in some way.
Everybody has to make a decision: knowing what I now know about this person and the things I believe that he has done, do I want to spend X amount of time in the company of this person? Does what they have done, and who they are, thunder so loudly in my ears that I can not hear what they might have to say?
March 29, 2007 at 10:07 pm
DKL, Actually I did not. When I finally graduated from BYU, I was pretty bitter with my entire experience there. I couldn’t leave fast enough. I did not attend. My law school classes (1st year) actually started before they had the summer commencement, which is when I finally graduated. So, even if I had wanted to attend, I would not likely have done so as law school had already started.
That’s true about us not having the opportunity to hear him speak for free. I think one has to be a heavy hitter Bush supporter likely willing to shell out some significant money to go hear him.
Now, RFK, is quite another thing. Sterling’s post over at BCC about RFK coming to BYU would have been one I would have attended. Unfortunately even I was too young at that time. I was only in 8th grade at the time.
March 29, 2007 at 10:12 pm
Mark N, I don’t see a problem with, for example, Mitterand speaking at BYU, even though he worked for the Vichy Republic (does that violate Godwin’s law?). I’d be pretty disappointed if a college that I attended turned down a speech from pretty much any democratically elected official in the free world. And I’d be anxious to attend any such speech.
March 29, 2007 at 10:13 pm
Well, I don’t see a problem with Mitterand speaking at BYU, except that he’s dead and the church has no ordinance for proxy speaking engagements. Please adjust the tense of the preceding comment accordingly.
March 30, 2007 at 5:54 am
Didn’t the invitation process actually start when BYU ask President Bush to speak last year? Then this year sort of as an acknowledgement of that invitation, VP Cheney’s office asked BYU if he could speak and then the Y gave a formal announcement? That’s what I remember reading somewhere.
Personally, its commencement. Its the students who accomplished their degree’s day. Its their day. A protest on campus would probably detract from that; and thats probably a big reason why the Y won’t allow for a on-campus demonstration. However, I think a protest off campus wouldn’t be a bad idea at all.
That being said, I personally saw a lot of cool speakers during my undergrad. If Pres. Clinton or Pres. Bush spoke at my campus, I would’ve been there in a heartbeat. If Moore or Cheney would’ve spoke at my campus–I would’ve been to see either speak. As far as commencement goes–I skipped all three of mine.
Personally, as “evil” as VP Cheney is, he’s still the vice president. If LBJ or Nixon would’ve spoke at a (please take a suspension of belief here since they are well, dead) BYU commencement, or a University, I’d still go and see them (I think they are probably the two politicians that Cheney is the most like).
March 30, 2007 at 6:41 am
Most newsworthy quote: (BYU spokesperson:)
“We recognize that members of our campus community are entitled to their opinions.”
March 30, 2007 at 8:25 am
Sherpa,
It doesn’t matter if he is still the vice president, he does not deserve the respect of his office. His actions are far too un-American for him to deserve that respect. The gracious response would have been for BYU to kindly decline the offer. What would the White House have done? Made a big fit out of it? Send Cheney off duck hunting instead? That’s a far better use of his time.
March 30, 2007 at 8:27 am
I really, really, really do not like Cheney. I think it just may be possible that he, a politician (gasp), is guilty of some severe lapses in the upholding of the Constitution and in the abrogation of power.
That said, I was very happy to see the statement from the Church. The tempest some people are making over this is not any different than what Wilkinson did during the 1960s. He was CERTAIN he was right too.
How do I know what Cheney has or has not done? I really don’t. It does seems likely to me, but even so, he has not yet placed a murdering brutal regime in the place of our government indefinitely. Too many people treat politics as a religion. So many are advocating a removal of the opposition from public view because they don’t like the message or what is represented or whatever. Then they come up with excuses for why this will make their lives harder and keep the Church from being thought well of in the World. PULLEASE! I think that is a very ugly and hypocritical place to be coming from.
March 30, 2007 at 9:08 am
Just ask any number of the commenters on Times and Seasons. They know everything about him.
Of course the whole question is a silly one. Vice presidents don’t actually _do_ anything! They never have, never will. Cheney is no exception. All of the angst expressed over this issue is focused on collective blame heaped on the Bush administration. Any member thereof is seemingly fair game for the unreasoning hatred.
Cheney is guilty by association, not for anything he has actually done. Nobody really cares about him or anything he does or says.
March 30, 2007 at 11:33 am
Dan, the church issued their statement. I’m not going to question the Church on this. That’s your call if you continue to do so and say what they should have done. Me, I’m content with the public statement issued by the church.
And yes, he’s still the Vice President. Even if his actions are “unamerican”—-This American takes the American stance by respecting the office of Vice President and President. This Mormon is fine with the Church’s stance on the matter and doesn’t have a problem with it all.
And before you retort–I’m no fan of Cheney. Not at all. But I respect the office he holds. After all, its Americans who put him there even if he’s “UnAmerican”
March 30, 2007 at 11:48 am
The Press Release says this,”the invitation is seen by the university’s board of trustees as one extended to someone holding the high office of vice president of the United States rather than to a partisan political figure,” and this, “Is it appropriate for a university — even one that espouses a policy of political neutrality — to have as featured speakers the holders of some of the highest offices in the land? Of course it is. And whoever the visitor — the vice president, the majority leader of the Senate or the chief justice of the Supreme Court (another scheduled fall speaker) — the university and the student body will listen, evaluate and react to them as intelligent citizens capable of making up their own minds about their messages.”
I don’t have a problem with that. I decided not to sign the petition, and after the Church came out with this, in my mind the issue is over. I totally support a civil, lawful, protest if there is one when he speaks–but as far as what the University should have done, I’m okay with the Church’s statement.
Like I said, if I was in school when either LBJ or Nixon were Presidents and they came to speak at my University; I’d go and listen to what they say. I think both of those individuals did as much or (dare I say it) more damage to the Office of the Executive Branch than the current Administration. I’ve never been for this war. I’m sure if I lived then I’d be even more against Vietnam than I am currently against the Iraq War. But at the same time, I still respect the Office of the Presidency.
March 30, 2007 at 1:24 pm
Vice presidents don’t actually _do_ anything! They never have, never will. Cheney is no exception.
When Bush had to testify before the closed-door session of the 9/11 commission, he insisted that Cheney testify together with him.
“The commission had originally sought separate testimony from the president and vice president. But the White House later insisted they would appear together, prompting critics to suggest that the White House wanted to make sure they kept their story straight…
“The private session began around 9:30 a.m. ET at the White House with the 10 members of the commission — five Republicans and five Democrats. Bush and Cheney were joined by White House counsel Alberto Gonzales and two members of his staff. No reporters or photographers were allowed to watch any part of the session.
“Gonzales was there to make sure that the ground rules of the meeting were followed, offer legal advice, if requested, and interject himself into the discussion to protect the president and vice president, said John Dean, former White House counsel for President Nixon.
“’I think it’s highly unusual, under the circumstances of an informal meeting like this, to bring your lawyer with you,’ Dean said. ‘It escalates the formality of an informal proceeding.’…
“The fact that Bush and Cheney appeared together was a source of displeasure for Democrats.
“’The president’s insistence that the vice president testify with him before the 9/11 commission is like having your tutor sit next to you during your final exam,’ said Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J.”
Apparently, Dick Cheney is the rare veep who actually does stuff.
March 30, 2007 at 2:02 pm
On top of that, it wasn’t President Bush who went into hiding during the 9/11 crisis, but it was Cheney.
Also, here is a few articles talking about Cheney’s power.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/031013/13cheney.htm
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/02/25/cheneys_unprecedented_power/
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/12/31/MN153196.DTL&type=election
I could go on.
March 30, 2007 at 2:05 pm
Personally, I am happy with the churches announcement. It makes the Cheney pill a little easier to swallow. Political neutrality is a must so they can’t stress it enough. I am also pleased to hear they are allowing some protesting. Because of the announcement, I am no longer protesting the fact that Cheney is speaking at BYU, but I am protesting everything that Cheney has done and everything he stands for. But by all means let him come and speak!
March 30, 2007 at 2:12 pm
Jim Said,
“Cheney is guilty by association, not for anything he has actually done. Nobody really cares about him or anything he does or says.”
I’m not sure the “nobody” you are referring to. Maybe the mindless people that watch the media controlled news – actors oops I mean the commentators on both sides that feed us what we should believe. If you are talking about those nobody’s I guess you are right. But if you are talking about those of us that are truly committed to preserving our Constitution we DO care!
March 30, 2007 at 3:16 pm
Oh, yeah, I get it — the President and Vice President sometimes actually sit in the same room — _together_, even!
Now, that’s sobering factual evidence of Cheney’s awesome and unprecedented power!
And even _more_ compelling is the realization that sometimes they’re _apart_!
Horrors! What Machiavellian machinations must be at work. It staggers the imagination.
March 30, 2007 at 5:45 pm
Daniel,
“It doesn’t matter if he is still the vice president, he does not deserve the respect of his office. His actions are far too un-American for him to deserve that respect.”
Even Paul gave Ananias respect when he didn’t deserve it. Christ gave Pilot respect. We are an Christian part of the blogosphere so lets remember our scriptures.
March 30, 2007 at 8:22 pm
Christ gave Pilot respect.
Yes, I think he recognized that Pilate was a mere tool of those to whom Pilate reported.
I don’t see Cheney as a tool; I see him more as a puppetmaster.
As for Herod, Jesus showed his “respect” by refusing to respond to anything Herod had to say. I doubt that Herod saw that as respectful.
And the only time Jesus made use of an epithet, he used it to make reference to Herod.
I do remember my scriptures after all.
March 31, 2007 at 12:04 am
i’m responding here only to the issue and the original post cause it’s late and i haven’t taken the time to read all the comments yet. but i would point out two things:
1. the church’s official statement completely avoids the question of inviting a person who holds a highly regarded political office AND who is one of the most controversial political figures in the nation due to the morally repugnant policies he endorses. my own objection to cheney speaking at byu has nothing to do with his political office or party and everything to do with the fact that i think he’s an immoral, unethical person and as such should not be honored with such an invitation–regardless of his office.
and
2. it’s lovely that byu is allowing a protest two or three weeks *in advance* of the VP’s speech. but i’m not going to pat them on the back for their political neutrality and tolerance of voices in opposition to cheney until they allow a protest on the *day of* his speech.
March 31, 2007 at 5:34 am
so the protest won’t be on the day itself, eh. Heh, well it looks like it will be a while before BYU grows up it seems.
March 31, 2007 at 6:34 am
Exactly what endorsements would they be? Perhaps the ones “everyone” knows about, but none can enumerate.
Can you offer any _reasonable_ basis for so thinking, or do you just hate the guy because “everyone hates him”?
Perhaps we might applaud if he was locked in the pillory and stoned when he shows up on campus? With the obligatory full network news coverage, of course.
I have heard that in legal terms, the accused is presumed innocent until convicted. Of course in reality this is just a pleasant fiction, a little lie we all tell ourselves. It is obvious that we really believe in trial by media, and conviction by innuendo. The overwhelming response to this issue is living proof.
March 31, 2007 at 6:40 am
Guy Murray and other friends, please forgive me for lurking on this blog, disturbing your protests with my own demented thoughts. I have no business stirring the pot so.
I will shut up and go away now, and quit bothering y’all.
Stay well.
March 31, 2007 at 7:31 am
Jim, all viewpoints are welcome here, within the confines of respectful discourse, which I think has been the case. I think it is healthy not only for the community of Saints; but, also the world to witness the divergence of political opinion amongst the members.
Like Sherpa above, I was very pleased to see the Church announcement. I would still protest Mr. Cheney’s visit, because I agree with others who have pointed out that his policies and support of policies that run contrary to my understanding of the Restored Gospel. But, we’re all free to disagree with those political interpretations.
March 31, 2007 at 7:59 am
Jim and others as well take a look at the following short youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdxLYuvvbgs
Watch especially close to the last few seconds of the clip.
Cheney served as a director of the CFR. If you don’t know what that is do some research. Here is a quote by Dr. Carroll Quigley, Professor of International Relations, Georgetown University Foreign Service School, Washington, D.C., in his book Tragedy and Hope.
“The CFR [Council On Foreign Relations] is the American Branch of a society which originated in England and believes national directives should be obliterated and one-world rule established. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years, and was permitted in the early 1960’s to examine its papers and secret records. . . . I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.”
Also it might be very helpful to everyone to read and reread the Book of Mormon paying special attention to the portions that deal with secret combinations.
Ezra Taft Benson stated, “In less than half a century, I repeat, this evil system has gained control over one-third of mankind, and it is steadily pursuing its vicious goal of control over all the rest of the world. It is time, and past time, for us to be alarmed. “Wo be unto him that is at ease. Wo be unto him that crieth ‘all is well.’.” (2 Nephi 28:24-25.) . . .”
April 4, 2007 at 7:55 pm
Well, the on campus protests were today. They were a lot larger than I thought they would be! I put up some pictures of the protests on my photoblog, and I thought you guys might be interested in checking it out: http://www.onelowerlightsphotosafari.blogspot.com
April 4, 2007 at 11:14 pm
so the protest won’t be on the day itself, eh.
Those who attend the graduation but are unhappy about Cheney being the speaker should respectfully turn their backs on the veep while he speaks. A radio talk show host here is Sacramento suggest they show up wearing white so as to be especially visible.
April 5, 2007 at 5:37 am
onelowerlight: Thanks for the link. I have linked to your blog on my latest post. Great photos!
Mark N: I don’t know if I agree with your proposal. I think the idea of wearing some distinctive clothing, i.e., all white would be an acceptable form of protest during this speech; but, I think turning your back, would actually be disrespectful to others around you who are there to enjoy commencement, Cheney notwithstanding. I would also not want to see actions that harm the Church’s image, or that of BYU.
I do like the idea of wearing white. That is something that can easily be done, and without disturbing the actual ceremony and being disrespectful.
April 5, 2007 at 10:17 am
The most disturbing part of this whole issue to me is that regardless of one’s personal stance in politics, their view of Cheney’s character, or their reaction to the church’s and BYU’s responses to critisism, it permanently changes the environment, the focus, and the memory of a ceremony that is intended to pay tribute to student who have worked hard to earn their degree. Now the focus is on the church, the school, the politician, and the negative feelings it generates on both sides of all the issues involved. I don’t think it could have gotten more out of hand if they had invited Hugh Hefner as a successful businessman. For that reason alone I think the school and the church has made a poor decision that will have a negative impact on the perception of LDS churh members and BYU affiliates long after this event has passed.
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April 26, 2007 at 10:03 am
The LDS Church’s statement on neutrality is unassailable, and it is surely appropriate for BYU to host speakers reflecting different points of view. Indefensible, however, is the decision to grant Cheney an honorary doctorate for public service. Honorary? Service? How can such words be applied to a man whose lies and bad judgment have brought dishonor to his office and to the United States as a whole? Because of BYU’s lamentable decision to bestow an honorary doctorate on such a horrible human being, Cheney now brings dishonor to the University and discredits whatever claims BYU might make to offering moral leadership.
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