Guess that anti-8 Utah boycott, so effectively concieved by the losing side, isn’t going exactly as planned–at least as to the Sundance Film Festival. Anyone with any knowledge about Utah and its toursim industry understands that Park City, and the Sundance Film festival are likley the most “gay friendly” city and venue in all of Utah. Who really gets hurt if the boycott succeeds? Seems the same minds who ran the campaign are still in charge.
January 4, 2009
What Boycott?
Posted by Guy Murray under Anti Mormon, Family, Freedom, Genderless Marriage, Liberty, Marriage, Politics, Pop Culture, Proposition 8, Religious Bigotry, Same Sex Marriage, Utah Boycott | Tags: Anti Mormon, Family, Freedom, Genderless Marriage, Liberty, Marriage, Politics, Pop Culture, Proposition 8, Religious Bigotry, Same Sex Marriage, Utah Boycott |[9] Comments
January 5, 2009 at 7:33 am
Wow…pretty desperate there, Guy! I guess it couldn’t be that most GLBT persons didn’t think it was a good idea to boycott Sundance, eh? After all, it’s VERY important to portray those “eeeee-vil peee-pul” as negatively as possible, so since there’s no real boycott being carried out, it must be a FAILURE by them! LOL!
January 5, 2009 at 8:06 am
Gee, why don’t you tell us how you really feel, Nick?
Don’t take it personally, Guy. I’ve seen Nick’s comments on various other sites and he is always condescending and mean. Seems like he looks for contention.
As for your post, I thought it quite ironic that the GLTB community called for a boycott on not only the Sundance Film Festival, but on the whole state of Utah. I’m sure those that live in Utah, with their conservative values, are not losing any sleep now that a huge influx of people with values that are diametrically opposed to their own are not going to visit.
January 5, 2009 at 8:30 am
Edward #2
Yeah, Nick’s pretty well known over here as well, about the same throughout the ‘nacle; but, that’s OK. Nick’s entitled to his opinion as well.
The so called boycott was not well thought out, for one of the reasons you just highlighted. And, of course, attempting to strike back at those folks who are friendly to your cause, makes absolutely no sense.
As I watch the post election reaction by the GLTB it is increasingly clear that their movement is not even remotely similar to the racial civil rights movement they so often love to invoke.
January 5, 2009 at 8:06 pm
The “so-called boycott” was indeed urged by some members of the GLBT community. Most of the GLBT community rejected the idea, as both impractical and ill-advised. Therefore, there is no organized “gay boycott” of Utah. I find it enormously telling, Guy, that you ignore the facts of the matter, and instead intentionally mislead the uneducated into thinking that the entire community got together, but then “failed” to successfully boycott.
January 6, 2009 at 7:46 am
Nick #4
As best I can tell Nick, there’s no organized anything. Rather there is a lot of temper tantrums post the Prop 8 election. The GLBT would like the world to think they are a monolithic block walking in lock step against unlawful and hideous discrimination in CA because they can’t get married–which is nothing more than a lie–a talking point and a lie. And, the reason for that is that in CA those who self proclaim as GLBT are protected more than anywhere on the planet.
Those, Nick, are the facts. BTW . . Happy New Year.
January 6, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Guy,
You wrote:
Who is (are) “The GLBT”? You make it sound like there is a large, united group by use of that phrase.
You also wrote:
I think you are saying that it is a lie to construe the passage of Proposition 8 as “unlawful and hideous discrimination.”
Furthermore, if I understand you correctly, you assert that one cannot consider Proposition 8 discriminatory because Californian LGBT citizens enjoy more civil rights than queer folk in most other states in the country.
That’s like saying, in 1966, that since the United States passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that state laws prohibiting interracial marriage are not discriminatory.
Because a state has granted a minority group civil rights–which were, I should emphasize, already enjoyed by the majority of citizens–it does not mean that the state earns a “free pass” to continue to discriminate in areas not covered by the civil rights legislation.
Now, if you want to argue that California’s (and a few other states’) domestic partnership or civil union laws are equal to marriage, then bring it on.
Sincerely,
Mark
P.S. I agree that our struggle for civil rights is different than that of African-Americans. We should develop our own themes, slogans, and symbols; embrace our unique history of discrimination and persecution–and the valiant efforts of previous generations to combat such bigotry; and resist the temptation to attempt a cozy ride on the coattails of the Black civil rights movement.
At the same time, when apt comparisons exist, such as the Loving v. Virginia case, we should not shy away from highlighting the striking similarities.
January 7, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Mark #6
That’s not my phrase. It’s one used by many who identify with that community, whatever it might be. The short answer to your question is that I have no idea who the GLBT community is (are). It’s easier to identify the African-American community, or the Mormon community, or other like minority communities. I’m not certain there is any consensus on just what constitutes the GLBT community. Would Lindsay Lohan qualify. How about Anne Heche? This problem is even more compounded when you try to establish legal standards, such as a newly created legal class. How does one define that class?
That’s the problem, Mark, they are not at all similar. And, attempts to paint them with the same brush are disingenuous. I’ve written more about that here.
January 7, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Here’s a test for you, Guy. Since we all know how eager you are to publicize each and every alleged offense by gays against those who supported Prop 8 (including blaming the “white powder” envelopes sent to two LDS temples on gays, without any evidence to back it up beyond speculation), let’s see whether you’re willing to put up a blog post about this story, in which a critic of gays has threatened to murder at least 55 gays in Seattle via poison:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com:80/html/localnews/2008597989_ricinthreat07m.html
Yeah, I know Guy….it doesn’t count if it’s a threat against the gays, does it? This guy must be on deity’s side, right?
January 12, 2009 at 8:23 pm
I’m gay boycotting. From now on I’ll never buy another hamster. I know I shouldn’t have said that… but it was funny huh?
For you nice people out there if you really must know what is meant; ask someone that hasn’t been to church in a while.