The California Supreme Court has agreed to hear the Proposition 8 challeges, and defenses over the course of the next few months. The court issued its order this afternoon, which you can read here. The briefing schedule outlined in the order begins now and goes through January 2009. It is unclear when there might be oral argument and a decision. The Los Angeles Times reports: (more…)
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November 19, 2008
California Supreme Court Agrees To Hear Prop. 8 Challenges
Posted by Guy Murray under Family, Freedom, Genderless Marriage, LDS Church, Liberty, Marriage, Politics, Pop Culture, Prophet, Proposition 8, Revelation, Same Sex Marriage, Traditional Marriage, Uncategorized | Tags: Family, Freedom, Genderless Marriage, LDS Church, Liberty, Marriage, Politics, Pop Culture, Prophet, Proposition 8, Revelation, Same Sex Marriage, Traditional Marriage |[17] Comments
November 12, 2008
The No’s Doth Protest Too Much
Posted by Guy Murray under America, Anti Mormon, Freedom, Genderless Marriage, Liberty, Marriage, Politics, Pop Culture, Proposition 8, Religious Bigotry, Same Sex Marriage, Traditional Marriage, Uncategorized, Voting | Tags: America, Anti Mormon, Freedom, Genderless Marriage, Liberty, Marriage, Politics, Pop Culture, Proposition 8, Religious Bigotry, Same Sex Marriage, Traditional Marriage, Voting |[25] Comments
I’m all for political protest. Unlike some recently judicially created rights, free speech and political protest is actually a fundamental right, with a long and well respected history of Constitutional protection, both at the state and federal levels. I’ve watched, as I’m sure many have, the political upheaval and fallout from California’s citizens exercising their fundamental right to amend the constitution of their own state. That is still a protected fundamental right isn’t it?–the right of the people to vote, to express their mandate at the ballot box. That’s still a protected fundamental right, reserved by the people to define the social and political mandates of society? I’ve tried to channel some thoughts in response to all this protest–in no particular order of importance: (more…)
November 3, 2008
Equal Protection, Fundamental Rights, And Genderless Marriage
Posted by Guy Murray under America, Family, Freedom, Genderless Marriage, Marriage, Pop Culture, Proposition 8, Revelation, Same Sex Marriage, Traditional Marriage, Uncategorized, Yes On Proposition 8 | Tags: America, Family, Freedom, Genderless Marriage, Marriage, Pop Culture, Proposition 8, Revelation, Same Sex Marriage, Traditional Marriage, Yes On Proposition 8 |[18] Comments
As I have watched the genderless marriage debate rage in California since the Ides of May, 2008 I have been amazed–perhaps even impressed at the effectiveness of the genderless marriage proponents to convince the electorate that this is an equal rights or fundamental rights issue. While I vigorously disagree with that proposition (as I will explain in greater detail in this post), I think the genderless marriage proponents have done a incredible job of wrapping the debate in the cloak of equal protection and fundamental rights. (more…)
November 1, 2008
In Memory Of Our God, Religion, and Freedom . . .
Posted by Guy Murray under America, Family, Freedom, Genderless Marriage, Jesus Christ, Liberty, Marriage, Politics, Pop Culture, Prophet, Proposition 8, Revelation, Same Sex Marriage, Traditional Marriage, Uncategorized, Voting, Yes On Proposition 8 | Tags: America, Family, Freedom, Genderless Marriage, Jesus Christ, Liberty, Marriage, Politics, Pop Culture, Proposition 8, Revelation, Same Sex Marriage, Traditional Marriage, Voting, Yes On Proposition 8 |[13] Comments
November 1, 2008
If Proposition 8 Wins On Tuesday
Posted by Guy Murray under America, Family, Freedom, Genderless Marriage, Liberty, Politics, Pop Culture, Proposition 8, Religious Bigotry, Revelation, Same Sex Marriage, Traditional Marriage, Uncategorized, Yes On Proposition 8 | Tags: America, Family, Freedom, Genderless Marriage, Liberty, Marriage, Politics, Pop Culture, Proposition 8, Religious Bigotry, Revelation, Same Sex Marriage, Traditional Marriage, Yes On Proposition 8 |[43] Comments
So, what will happen? Do our lesbian/gay sisters and brothers lose all their rights? Do they revert to second class citizens, as some ads suggest? You’ve probably seen the television ads portraying Proposition 8 as the same as denying civil rights to our African American sisters and brothers prior to the Civil Rights Act and Civil Rights Movement of the 40’s 50’s and 60’s. As best I can tell none of this is true. Rather, what will happen on November 5, 2008, should Proposition 8 prevail at the polls with a majority vote of California’s residents follows below the jump: (more…)
October 29, 2008
Samuel the 8anite
Posted by Guy Murray under America, Anti Mormon, Family, Freedom, Genderless Marriage, Liberty, Marriage, Politics, Pop Culture, Prophet, Proposition 8, Religious Bigotry, Revelation, Same Sex Marriage, Traditional Marriage, Uncategorized, Yes On Proposition 8 | Tags: America, Anti Mormon, Family, Freedom, Genderless Marriage, Liberty, Marriage, Politics, Pop Culture, Prophet, Proposition 8, Religious Bigotry, Revelation, Same Sex Marriage, Traditional Marriage, Yes On Proposition 8 |[7] Comments
October 18, 2008
Dissident Mormons?
Posted by Guy Murray under Anti Mormon, Apostacy, Genderless Marriage, Marriage, Proposition 8, Same Sex Marriage, Traditional Marriage, Uncategorized, Yes On Proposition 8 | Tags: Anti Mormon, Apostacy, Genderless Marriage, Marriage, Proposition 8, Same Sex Marriage, Traditional Marriage, Yes On Proposition 8 |[27] Comments
I love Peggy Fletcher Stack, one of the Salt Lake Tribune’s best writers. Really, I do. Well, let me clarify. I love her articles–I really do. Peggy (if I may be so informal–she calls me Guy–probably among lots of other things too ;-)) anyway, Peggy has written some of the best articles about the LDS Church both from a mainstream point of view, and also from a less traditional point of view. On some things we see eye to eye–other times not. Peggy has a pretty good article in today’s Salt Lake Tribune, entitled Dissident Mormons. I encourage you to read the whole thing. (more…)
October 12, 2008
Whether You Like It Or Not (Or Gay Marriage Day For 1st Grade)
Posted by Guy Murray under Family, Freedom, Genderless Marriage, Marriage, Proposition 8, Same Sex Marriage, Traditional Marriage, Uncategorized, Yes On Proposition 8 | Tags: Family, Freedom, Genderless Marriage, Marriage, Proposition 8, Same Sex Marriage, Traditional Marriage, Yes On Proposition 8 |[54] Comments
Mayor Gavin Newsom’s bombastic in your face proclamation on the family, “whether you like it or not” has come home to roost in the California genderless marriage debate. And, at the center is a group of first graders, used as pawns in that debate. (more…)
October 11, 2008
The State’s (Societal) Interests In Preserving Man/Woman Marriage
Posted by Guy Murray under Genderless Marriage, Marriage, Proposition 8, Same Sex Marriage, Uncategorized, Yes On Proposition 8 | Tags: Genderless Marriage, Marriage, Proposition 8, Same Sex Marriage, Yes On Proposition 8 |[12] Comments
As we approach election day here in California, I think it instructive to understand what legitimate interests the state (any state, not just California) has in promoting and sanctioning man/woman marriage over genderless marriage.
One of the most significant cases outlining the state’s interests was Hernandez v Robles 855 N.E.2d 1 (2006), where the New York Supreme Court soundly rejected genderless marriage in New York. I look to New York, because their supreme court is well established and well respected–and frankly because the California State Supreme Court got it wrong. (more…)